On today’s show, I’m speaking with two parents about grief and loss of the most devastating kind: the death of a child. In my 33 years as a journalist, Matthew Badger and Judy Shepard’s stories are two that have stayed with me. In his first TV interview since the one-year anniversary of his three daughters dying in a tragic fire, Matthew Badger opens up about his struggle to cope and move forward. Judy Shepard’s son Matthew’s death made the words “Laramie” and “hate crime” part of the national conversation. 15 years later she talks about how she’s carrying on his legacy today. How does a parent move forward after the death of their child? Have you ever had to do this? Share with me here.

— Katie